Wolf Yellowstone Grizzly Discovery Center Oktober 2005
Wolf Schönbrunn 20.8.2005
www.fotoshot.at
Wolf Schönbrunn 20.8.2005
Wolf Yellowstone Grizzly Discovery Center Oktober 2005
Aus dem ARCHIV: "das war los im Jahre 2008
Mail-Korrespondenzu / Protest gegen Wolfstötungen
Ausgelöst durch einen Besuch auf der Seite von Elli Radinger (www.yellowstone-wolf.de) und einen Bericht wonach wiederum unzählige Wölfe und Bisons getötet werden sollen bzw. bereits getötet wurden, habe ich nahezu alle in der Protestliste auf www.yellowstone-wolf.de angeführten und mehr oder weniger dafür zuständigen bzw. damit befassten Personen angeschrieben und habe etliche Antworten (Re-Mails) erhalten, die ich zur Nachlese bzw. als Information zur Verfügung stellen möchte. Ergänzend möchte ich sagen, daß ich der Annahme war, daß das "große Schlachten" direkt im Park begonnen hat und das in meinem Protestmail auch so geschrieben habe. Laut den Retour-Mails soll das nicht so sein. Hab ich mir auch nur schwer vorstellen können . . . wegen der Touristen. Die Reaktionen auf mein Mail waren teilweise heftig. Und ich habe auch Mails erhalten, in denen versucht wird die Situation zu erklären und sozusagen für die Abschüsse Verständnis zu haben. Ich habe auch ein Mail erhalten mit Fotos von jagenden und einen Elch tötenden Wölfen, womit offenbar ausgesagt werden soll, daß Wölfe gefährliche Killer sein sollen. Aber lest und seht selbst . . . . . . . Die von mir gesendeten Mails gibt's weiter unten. Die erhaltenen Antworten gleich anschliessend hier oben.
Getötete Wölfe in Wyoming, Idaho u. Montana: 39. Quelle: Elli Radinger www.yellowstone-wolf.de. Stand 14.5.08. Dies sind freiwillig gemeldete Tötungen; wahrscheinlich sind bereits viel mehr Wölfe getötet worden.

Das ist der Grund warum Protest so notwendig ist: Wolfsabschuss (mit Bild)-"Ralph Maughans Wildlife". Weiterer Bericht: "Idaho Mountain Express" (mit Bild, Reportage und Diskussionsforum)

LINKS
erhaltene E-Mail-Antworten:
erhaltene E-Mail-Antworten:
Amy Edmonds, HD 12, Wyoming State Representative amynharlan@msn.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 07:47:12 -0600
Kathy Thompson info@buffalobillartshow.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 08:54:12 -0600
Wolf Schönbrunn 20.8.2005
Re-Mail: "Albert,
Could you please tell me the exact source you get this misinformation from? This is the second email I have received from a European in less than 24 hrs, and both emails are filled with inaccuracies. Would you please be so kind as to point me to where you got the information to write your email?"
Wyoming State Representative Amy Edmonds, HD 12
Re-Mail: "I am sorry you have been misinformed. The bison and wolves are not being killed in the park. I suggest you contact Chuck Preston at the Buffalo Bill
Historic center at chuckp@bbhc.org and he will inform you of actual information."
Wyoming, Montana, Idaho- Die Wölfe werden abgeschlachtet !
MAILADRESSEN f. Protestmails
MICHAEL K. MADDEN Wyoming State Representative madden@wyoming.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 09:17:04 -0600
Sarah, "Tourism Information" tourism@visitwyo.gov webmaster.wyoming@milesmedia.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 09:18:48 -0600
Re-Mail: "Wolves and Bison are NOT killed in Yellowstone Park. Period."
Re-Mail: "Albert,I have received your recent email and regret that you have chosen tobypass Wyoming for your upcoming vacation. The role of Travel andTourism is to promote tourism in the state of Wyomingand to provideassistance and information to our visitors.Current federal laws and wolf management plans are beyond the control ofthe state Division of Travel and Tourism. The wolf is still protectedin Wyoming's national parks, and as you know, wolf watching is anexciting part of the visitor experience.It is unfortunate this issue has drastically impacted your travel
decisions. Perhaps, in the future you will reconsider.I wish you thebest in your vacation endeavors. Regards,
Sarah"
Martinson Betsy - Parks & Rec Betsy.Martinson@denvergov.org , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 09:19:47 -0600
"Kermit C. Brown" Wyoming State Representative KermitBrown@wyoming.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 10:40:49 -0600
Re-Mail: "Please remove me from your email list. We are no where near Yellowstone and have no connection with the Wyoming government."

Betsy Martinson, Education/Events Coordinator
Buffalo Bill Museum and Grave
987 1/2 Lookout Mountain Rd.
Golden, CO 80401
303-526-0744; fax: 303-526-0197

Re-Mail: "Dear Albert,Wyoming has approximately 350 wolves. Each wolf is eating approximately 22 head of elk per year. That comes out to 7700 of our elk the wolves are killing annually. The wolf population is growing at about 20% per year. That means there will be another 70 wolves next year and the elk loss will
increase to approximately 9240 elk per year. If you do the math, in 5 more years the situation will be ridiculous. So far since delisitng, we have killed 6 wolves, all of which were outside the protected area. I would not exactly call that a slaughter. I am sorry your sources are so lacking in facts. No wolves are being killed in Yellowstone National Park and none
will be. Where does this misinformation come from? And how many of these cute little critters do you want? Kermit C. Brown"
MICHAEL K. MADDEN Wyoming State Representative madden@wyoming.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 10:56:26 -0600
Amy Edmonds, HD 12, Wyoming State Representative amynharlan@msn.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 11:04:52 -0600

 

Re-Mail "Mr. Kosta: I bet that if you owned cattle and sheep and kept them on your own private property in Wyoming, you would not want to watch wolves kill them at will for their own pleasure ! In the US we have such a thing as private property rights. What a concept for Europeans! M. Madden Dist. 40"
Re-Mail: "Albert, would you like to have wolves release into the wilderness areas close to where you live? If you are concerned for the plight of wolves and if you believe that they are still close to extinction (which they are not), then you should fight to get wolves in your area. I would have more respect for oyour agrument if you were working in your community to release wolves. Montana, Wyoming and Idaho wanted the wolves delisted because they are no longer in any danger as a "sensitive" species. They are breeding and thriving. Thriving to the point that they are migrating 100s and 100s of miles and are encroaching on populated areas. They have left the park to follow the elk herds and have now killed so many in our elk herds that we are facing a crisis with them. They are also killing our moose. Have you ever seen a live aerol video of a wolf pack bringing down and eating a fully grown male moose alive? I have. It's horrific beyond words. We have worked so hard to bring the number of moose back up in Yellowstone. They are majestic, aloof creatures and we have unleashed on them a predator of such ferociousness, they are struggling to survive. There must be balance for the sake of ALL our animals in and out of the Park. That is what we are trying to achieve. I am sorry your "favorite" wolf was killed. Please consider all sides of this story and not just the one told on an advocacy website that is hell bent on keeping wolves in a community they don't even live.Representative Amy Edmonds, HD 12"
 
Drew Perkins, Senator, drew@schwartzbon.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 11:08:32 -0600
Amy Edmonds, HD 12, Wyoming State Representative amynharlan@msn.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 11:30:47 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Mr. Kosta, Thank you for writing. Howerver, you are misinformed. It is still illegal to kill wolves inside Yellowstone Park. Outside of the Park and extending in some cases, over a hundred miles beyond the borders of Yellowstone Park, the wolves are still protected. Where wolves have lost their protection is even beyond those boundaries. Many scientists believe the wolf management plan is sound and will protect the wolves' reintroduction to Yellowstone. HOwever, they have multiplied significantly and are found in many parts of the State. That will bring them into contact with humans, livestock and domestic animals. It is only outside of the boundaries described above that wolves are considered predators and can be killed without special permission from the government.
Senator Drew Perkins"

Re-Mail: "Albert -please keep in mind that I am not interested in managing our wolves in a manner that would place them back on the "sensitive" species list. They are beautiful animals that can bring an ecological balance to our wilderness areas, however, they are also smart and opportunistic and once they leave the park, they learn pretty quickly that domestic livestock are a lot easier to kill than wild prey. So, they begin to stalk livestock, which inevitably means they are in rural-urban areas where homes and families live. I will NEVER put the lives of wolves before the lives of people and if families are threatened in ANY way (their children aren't safe to play on their own private land, etc), then the wolves must be managed. Period. Please know that Wyoming is working to manage these animals in a manner that will keep everyone safe, protect private property rights and keep the wolves thriving. What we can't do is keep enviromentalists happy, they are extremists that will never see the full picture. I have gotten plenty of emails from them and have tried to reason with them. It never works, they would ultimately sacrifics the lives of humans over these animals and I can't agree with that insanity in any way. I hope you can see the balance here. Amy Edmonds"

 
"Tim O'Donoghue" tim@jacksonholechamber.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 11:35:53 -0600
Jane Warren jwbeardog@bresnan.net , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 12:17:07 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Dear Albert,Thank you for your letter. Please note that the bison and wolf managementplans for Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming as well as the U.S. Government do notallow the killing of bison and wolves within the national parks. As is thecase with all animals, they are protected within the national parks. However, bison and wolves receive either limited or no protection outside of
Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks.I will share your letter with the Jackson Hole Chamber of Commerce's Board of Directors and staff. Perhaps unlike elsewhere in Wyoming, Montana, andIdaho, the majority of people in Jackson Hole have strong concerns about and opposition to the wolf management plans of these states and the intendedlarge-scale killing of wolves. Science, public opinion, and economics saythat these plans could be harmful and unnecessary. With regards to economics, a University of Montana study showed that our regional economy
receives approximately $35.5 million annually from tourism as a direct result of the presence of wolves. We are aware that a number of lawsuits will be filed to stop the implementation of Wyoming's Wolf Management Plan, including lawsuits filed or joined by a number of our local organizations. So, it is unclear if implementation of these wolf management plans will be interrupted or continue in their present form or at all. In the meantime, I would encourage you to ask your family members, friends, and acquaintances that feel similarly to also email letters to us.
Obviously, the less inflammatory and more to the point the letters are, the more effective they will be and easier for me to represent to my Board ofDirectors. Thanks again, Tim.

Timothy O'Donoghue
Executive Director
Jackson Hole Chamber of Commerce

Respecting the Power of Place
Our Commitment to Economy, Community, and Environment"

Re-Mail: "l agree completely...l wish we had 400,000 or you in wyoming! thanks for caring jane warren"
 
Pat Aullman paullman@wyoming.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 13:14:30 -0600
Kathy Thompson info@buffalobillartshow.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 15:12:50 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Sir, I do not know where you are getting your information, but it is wrong. The bison and wolves are doing fine in the park. There is no hunting there. The only hunting is outside the park and it is watched very closely. Wyoming MUST keep up to 15 packs in the park and outside. The only huntingis by license only, and over 100 to 150 miles outside the park the wolvesare considered predators, so no license is needed. Wolves are a very smart animal and will be around for a very long time. So, come and enjoy the park, but do not except to see many animals but bison for the wolves like the pack country and night travel, and they have done a great job in keeping the moose, deer, and elk population down."
Re-Mail: "Dear Albert, I am not sure I will be the best person to respond but I have an understanding of this situation. I am aware in the early 1990's wolfs were reintroduced to the greater Yellowstone eco-system. There were three hundred at that time and now there are over 1600 wolves. Everyone wishes they could/would stay in the park, but I am sure you know they migrate.
Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho are big ranching states and the other side of the story is protecting livestock and other natural wildlife in previously uninhabited wolf areas. It has become a very serious issue partly because of the severe drought that has happened in the west over the last two decades. The drought itself has caused some of the wild life problems. The bears come down out of the mountains because the berries, grubs, and so on are no longer in great abundance. The wolves come down to feed on animals at the lower elevations. Because of the drought situation many animals who perhaps were healthier are no longer able to be in balance. Once a wolf finds easy prey (such as livestock, or baby elk, deer, etc) they always go back to the same spots. I am no expert, just someone who can see both sides of the issue. When there are two extreme sides (on any issue) there must be compromise. Bears are also coming close to civilized areas because of similar reasons. There is a novel called the Loop by Nicholas Evans. It is a light read about a heavy subject but it does show how layered the issue of the wolf is; how lives are affected by wolves, and how resolve must come. It is not a Nobel Fiction Prize book, but interesting. Yes, the wolf emotes opinions: either love or hate. I would rather take a middle stance. I do know that there is not "free range" to shoot and kill for the sake of killing a wolf but there are valid reasons why control is important here in the west. As to the bison--again drought and enough food for them has been
critical as winters are harsh, summers dry and feed not always plentiful. It appears better to thin the herd than to let them starve. I am from Oregon (the west coast of the U.S.) and in that state more deer are killed by motorists than hunters. I don't know if I have offered any help but I know there are a stack of books (information) for both sides and we are charged with educating ourselves to both sides. If I think of someone who
might better answer your questions I will forward them to you.

Warm Regards, Kathy"

 
"Kermit C. Brown" Wyoming State Representative KermitBrown@wyoming.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 17:21:43 -0600
"Kermit C. Brown" Wyoming State Representative KermitBrown@wyoming.com , Wed, 09. Apr 2008 08:50:25 -0600
 
RE-Mail: "Albert,See below for a more precise explanation from the Director of the Wyoming ame and Fish Department. I hope you will find it infomative. Sincerely, we are not just a bunch of crazies out here killing wolves with abandon. Though we resent having them forced on us, we do accept the fact that they are here to stay. However, we do not expect them to overrun the entire
state of Wyoming any more than we would expect them to overrun the entire country of Austria.

Kermit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Cleveland" <Terry.Cleveland@wgf.state.wy.us>
To: "Kermit C. Brown" <KermitBrown@wyoming.com>
Cc: "Pat Childers" <childers@wyoming.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: To whom it may concern


Kermit:
Wyoming had at least 359 wolves by the end of 2007. Based on recent research (White et al. 2005), each wolf eats approximately 22 wild ungulates per year, of which 90% are elk. That comes out to more than 7100 of our elk the wolves are killing annually. Wolves also have killed as many as 135 cattle (2006) and 98 domestic sheep (2004) in a single year in Wyoming. Overall, the wolf population has increased 24% per year throughout the Northern Rocky Mountains. However, the portion of the wolf population in Wyoming outside Yellowstone National Park has increased at a much greater rate (32% per year) since the population was considered recovered in 2002. This high growth rate has occurred despite control actions by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service killing an average of 20% of the wolves per year. In 2007 alone, we had at least 188 wolves outside YNP despite removal of 63 wolves in depredation control actions. If the Service had not removed these 63 wolves and the population continued increasing 32%, by the end of 2008 there would be more than 140 additional wolves in Wyoming outside YNP. Many of those additional wolves would disperse into areas not considered suitable wolf habitat due to high levels of conflict, resulting in major increases in livestock depredations and other problems.

Ignoring any further increase in YNP wolves, 140 additional wolves outside the Park would increase the total loss of elk to 9,900. This is approaching half the elk normally harvested by hunters throughout the entire state of Wyoming. The only reason we can have wolves today is due to the efforts of sportsmen/conservationists who restored the large ungulate herds
from near extermination at the turn of the century, to what they are today. Without this prey base, wolf reintroduction could never have happened.
If you do the math, in 5 more years the situation will be ridiculous. It was recognized right from the very beginning that in order to have wolves in the contemporary human environment, wolf numbers and distribution would need to be managed just as other wildlife populations are managed throughout the United States. Of necessity, this meant wolf numbers and distribution would need to be controlled through a combination of regulated harvest and
depredation control actions, as expressly stated in the original recovery plan and EIS. Read the 1987 wolf recovery plan and the 1994 EIS on wolf introduction available at:
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/.

Since delisitng, 10 wolves have been killed, all of which were outside the trophy game area. Four of these were taken in a single depredation control action by Wildlife Services.I hope this answers your questions. If you need anything else, please let me know."

Re-Mail: "Albert, The only way to limit wolves is either to shoot them or let them find a balance in nature. Allowing them to find a balance in nature would mean allowing their numbers to increase until they kill everything (including domestic livestock) sufficient that they create a food shortage for themselves. I don't think anyone would be in favor of that. We will see the numbers ebb and flow in Yellowstone because there will be no killing of wolves there. It will be interesting to watch how thier numbers change as the prey base changes. We have lots of game here -- about 800 species total
including about 100 species that we hunt, fish or trap. All need protection and if the continued existence of any become threatened we are required by law to protect them and their habitat to prevent extinction. So, here is the ultimate dilemma: what do we do when one endangered species is devouring another? A hungry wolf would eat the last elk on earth witth no remourse. I'm afraid that that dilemma illistrates the point. If we are going to
preserve all 800 species, we we have to activley manage them all. The old days are a thing of the past.

I have really enjoyed our conversation thus far and I was wondering: are you a skier? Kermit"

 
Allen Jaggi ajaggi@wyoming.com , Wed, 09. Apr 2008 15:34:42 -0600
Jack Landon jlandon@wyoming.com, , Wed, 09. Apr 2008 15:50:44 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Albert, Thanks for your thoughts. You really don't understand how wildlife management works. It is based on sound science. I am in Wyoming's legislature and serve on the committee that hears all the testimony from all sides of the issue concerning wolf and buffalo management. I assure you that we are not just killing wolves and buffalo without good scientific management reasons. You did not mention that the habitat is overgrazed, deteriorating, because there are too many buffalo. You did not mention that
ranchers, agriculture one of Wyoming main industries and way of life, and wildlife are being threatened because of what wolves kill, because we have too many wolves. You hear only one side and without really trying to understand why we are trying to manage all species for the good of all concerned, you write to say how bad we are. I assure you that we are really trying to manage the habitat, all animals, human pressure, industry, the environment, for the best good of all. The real problem is that our habitat is shrinking, mainly because of human pressure. Before you judge Wyoming
for trying to do the best we can to manage everything, you might want to find out what is really going on. Wow, I could go on, but I hope you are a little more understanding and will try to find out the real facts before making harsh, rash, unfounded, statements and passing judgment. Please pass this on to your friends who are getting only one side of the issue.
Thanks for listening and learning,

Representative Allen Jaggi
Member of Travel, Recreation, Wildlife, and Culture Resources Committee Wyoming House of Representatives"

Re-Mail: "Dear Mr. Kosta, For your information, wolves are not allowed to be killed in Yellowstone National Park or the surrounding Parks. There may be controlled hunting in the NW section of Wyoming. Outside of that region, about 10,000 square miles (you can convert to km), wolves can be shot. The reason is that many ranchers with cattle, sheep and wildlife must be able to protect their property. You would understand if you wake one morning to find 30 of your
sheep dead in the field or your favorite horse standing in shock, then dragging its intestines as it walks. Please come visit. You will enjoy the wildlife and wolves. I watch them every year in Yellowstone. Sincerely,
Jack Landon State Representative, House District 30"
 
"Kermit C. Brown" Wyoming State Representative KermitBrown@wyoming.com , Wed, 09. Apr 2008 16:22:19 -0600
Eric Keszler Eric.Keszler@wgf.state.wy.us , Thu, 10. Apr 2008 09:44:21 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Albert, That is unfortunate. I was in Yellowstone last year and sat on the highway in the Lamar Valley glassing wolves hanging behind the elk herd. It was rutting season for the bull elk and I don't think the wolves wanted to tangle with them. The bull elk become pretty beligerant during rutting season so the wolves were keeping their distance. Pretty interesting to watch. I hope you get to see them some day."
Re-Mail: "This is in response to your recent correspondence with the WyomingGovernor’s office concerning wolves in Wyoming. The governor forwarded your correspondence to me for a response. Thank you for your interest and concern about this issue. As I’m sure you are aware, the recovery of wolves in Wyoming and throughout the northern Rocky Mountains has been one of the most successful conservation stories ever. And it has also been one of the most controversial.Wolves were exterminated from most of the lower 48 states, including Wyoming, in the early 20th Century. In the mid 1990s, the federal government transplanted Canadian wolves to the northern Rocky Mountains. Since then, wolves in this region have done extremely well. The original criteria for a recovered population of wolves, which was established by the US Fish and Wildlife Service, was around 300. Today there are more than 1500 wolves in the region. Because of the success of wolves in this region, they were officially removed from the Endangered Species List on March 28, 2008, and are currently under management authority of the states. The landscape that wolves were reintroduced to is quite different than the landscape of 100 years ago. Today, in northwest Wyoming, we have some areas of wilderness with abundant habitat and prey populations necessary to maintain a recovered population of wolves. Other areas in Wyoming are used largely for livestock and other agricultural purposes. Those areas of the state do not have adequate habitat and prey for wolves. And wolves that expand into those areas are almost constantly in conflict with wildlife and with people.

Wyoming’s wolf management plan is a science-based approach for
maintaining a recovered population of wolves in areas where there is adequate habitat for wolves, and for minimizing conflicts with livestock and people across the state. Though many individuals and groups portray it otherwise, Wyoming is not interested in immediately reducing wolf numbers to the absolute minimum
number required to keep them off the Endangered Species List. Instead, we are taking a conservative, science-based approach to managing wolves where and how it makes the most sense-for the wolves and for the people who live, work and recreate in wolf country. The Wyoming Game and Fish Department has been successfully managing the state’s wildlife for more than 100 years. Thanks in large part to the department’s science-based management, today we enjoy abundant populations of many wildlife species. Indeed, Wyoming’s wildlife resources are recognized worldwide for their abundance and diversity. The department has the experience, resources, and expertise to manage the state’s wolves as well. Because wolves breed prolifically, and because they naturally expand their territories into areas being used by livestock, it is sometimes necessary to use lethal control methods to minimize depredations on livestock. This is not a new scenario under state management. In fact, the US Fish and Wildlife Service killed more than 700 wolves in the northern Rocky Mountains between 1995 and 2008, mostly due to livestock depredations. Other, non-lethal methods, such as transplanting wolves or using contraceptives or guard dogs, have only very limited practical
applications in Wyoming. Wyoming’s wolf management plan allows for some lethal take of wolves due to livestock conflicts. It also allows some hunter take of wolves. As with many other wildlife species, like elk, deer, moose, game birds, and small game, a healthy population is marked by the opportunity for some public take.
While I understand your concerns related to wolf management in Wyoming, I ask that you understand that we fully intend to maintain a recovered population of wolves in northwest Wyoming. In addition to structuring hunting seasons, the Wyoming Game and Fish Department is embarking on an extensive monitoring and research program to understand more about wolves, their habitat needs, and their effects on other wildlife and
their habitats. As we move forward with wolf management and learn more about wolves in the modern Wyoming landscape, we’ll adapt our techniques to continue to ensure a healthy wolf population in northwest Wyoming, along with healthy populations of other wildlife.

For more information about wolves in Wyoming, please visit the Wolf
Information section of our website at:
http://gf.state.wy.us/services/education/wolves/index.asp.

Sincerely,

Eric Keszler
Public Information Officer
Wyoming Game and Fish Department"

 
Mike Keller, Executive Director, Operations, PO BOX 165
Yellowstone National Park, WY 82190 (307)-344-5206
mkeller@xanterra.com
=cc: Judy Jennings, Chief, Concessions, National Park Service , Fri, 11. Apr 2008 10:17:41 -0600
Peter M. Jorgensen, House District 16, P.O. Box 9550, Jackson, Wyoming 83002, USA , Sun, 13. Apr 2008 16:09:52 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "04/11/2008, 10:17 XANTERRA-F287 wrote:
April 11, 2008 Mr. Albert Kostistansky Dear Mr. Kostistansky, Thank you for providing us your observations in regards to the management of wildlife here in Yellowstone. While our facilities are within the boundaries of Yellowstone National Park, we oversee the management of several of the concessions operations (hotels, restaurants, gift shops) but we have no involvement with the management of the wildlife. While the delisting of the wolf as an endangered species has taken place in the state of Wyoming, they cannot be hunted within the boundaries of Yellowstone National Park. I would encourage you to share your comments via the following web site: www.wyomingtourism.org
Thank you again for your comments. If I can be of any further assistance, please contact me via the information provided below. Sincerely, Mike Keller, Executive Director, Operations
PO BOX 165, Yellowstone National Park, WY 82190
(307)-344-5206
mkeller@xanterra.com =
cc: Judy Jennings, Chief, Concessions, National Park Service"
Re-Mail: "Albert, Thanks for your messages. Many of us in the Wyoming legislature tried to reach a better accommodation on this issue, which would have required our Wyoming Game and Fish Commission to establish seasons and quotas for wolf hunting in order to keep some control of depredation of both livestock and
wildlife. That proposal would have permitted ranchers to shoot wolves killing their livestock. Unfortunately there was not sufficient support for that compromise.We'll be patient for now and monitor what occurs. You can probably keeptract on the Wyoming Game and Fish website: gf.state.wy.us . Sincerely,
Peter M. Jorgensen
House District 16
P.O. Box 9550
Jackson, Wyoming 83002
USA"
 
MICHAEL K. MADDEN Wyoming State Representative madden@wyoming.com , Sun, 13. Apr 2008 18:26:51 -0600
"Tourism Information" tourism@visitwyo.gov , Mon, 14. Apr 2008 11:09:59 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Albert: I don't know where to start with regard to the misinformation you have been given. First, there are only 31 wolves outside the protected area. The rest of the 300 are in the protected area so the 70% figure you gave is totally wrong.Also, we now have way too many tourists in Wyoming if we are to maintain pristine ecological standards that we have always demanded. We need to cut down on tourists and the best way would be to have negative, and ill informed people such as you and an other Austrians that buy into the same nonsense on the internet to please stay a way so that we can maintain the sensitive ecological balance that we need to assure that Wyoming stays pretty much the same as it has for the last 200 years. As someone who cares about ensuring a lasting future for Wyoming, please listen to what I am saying and also please tell everybody with a gullible mind like yours to please stay away also.M. Madden, Legislator, Dist. 40PS. How many wolves do you have in Austria?? Maybe you would like to have a few of these beautiful creatures shipped over to Austria so they can kill and maim livestock in Austria too. We can ship them over. Just let us know. Of course your have no respect for private property rights so the wolves would become welcome new residents of Austria. Have a nice day!! And please choose to vacation anywhere but Wyoming."
Re-Mail: "Albert, You can get all of the detailed information you need at gf.state.us.wy. They have a specific link dedicated to the Wolf Management etc. If we can be of further assistance, please let us know. Thank you forcontacting Wyoming Forever West!

Sarah"

 
randerso@wyoming.com, Representative Wyoming , Sun, 13. Apr 2008 05:42:27 -0700
jmockler@wyoming.com ,Tue, 08. Apr 2008 09:56:24 -0700
 

"Mr. Kosta: Welcome to the real world."

 

Re-Mail: "Hello, I wanted to let you know that the killing of wolves and bison in Yellowstone National Park and Teton National Park can not be killed. Wolves are also protected in part of the Wilderness and much of the lands around the wilderness game animals to control the populations, they can only be "killed" near public and private land where they are far outside their original intended recovery areas and there to they must notify the State Game and Fish so that the State can monitor the losses. The State is very much aware that to let the wolves drop below the recovery population will result in their relisting and again disallow our ability to control them in our State. I did not vote for the Laws as they now stand; however the US Government accepted the plan and they had the final say, not the State of Wyoming. Hope that helps clear up many of the rumors and helps to assure you that Wyomning is a wonderful place to visit. The National Parks are as they always have been, free and natural, wolves, bison and all.

Senator E. Jayne Mockler"

 
Timothy P. Hallinan, M.D, District 32, Wyoming House of Representatives, Mail: tphallinan@bresnan.net , Sun, 27. Apr 2008 08:26:33 -0600

Amy Edmonds, HD 12, Wyoming State Representative amynharlan@msn.com , Sun, 27. Apr 2008 10:11:26 -0600

 
Re-Mail: "Dear Mr. Kostistansky: Rep. Madden has a very fine ironic wit. He was exercising that wit, at your expense, in his answer to you.
In my opinion, you had it coming. Wyomingites are very independent people. We don't take favorably to people who ignorantly poke their nose into our business when it is none of their business. I am sure that there are many problems you can work on in Austria. One of them I suspect, as Rep. Madden pointed out in his letter to you, is an inadequate respect for private property rights. Regards, Timothy P. Hallinan, M.D
District 32, Wyoming House of Representatives"

Re-Mail: "Mr. Kosta, We have spoken in the past, and I see that you are continuing to email Wyoming State Legislators. From your request below, you are asking for the wolf to be placed back on the endangered species list. First of all, stop emailing State legislators for that, we can't help you. The FEDERAL government took the wolf off the endangered species list and allowed us to manage the wolves. You need to stop writing State legislators for this, ask the FEDERAL government. State legislators could not take them off and we can not put them back on. Second, I have gotten a whole bunch of emails since you and I had our dialogue and not one of them has been polite, as a matter of fact, most of them were bigoted, nasty letters, with threats, barbs, and insults. I suspect Representative Madden has had the same experience and is simply tired of them all and angry, but I don't want to put words in his mouth. I will speak from my experience. Please don't write legislators and threaten them, and then become shocked when their answer to your threats is less than polite. It's the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded room and being shocked at the panic and chaos you have caused. You caused it, take responsibility for it. If you threaten us with a tourism boycott, please don't be surprised when some answer you with anger. There is no room for dialogue when threats are levelled immediately. Finally, as I have said in the past, I would have a lot more respect for your arguments and your love of the wolf if you were working to get populations of wolves released back into your wilderness areas in Austria. Will you make that commitment? Will you work with your people and communites to have wolves reintroduced in Austria? There are very few wolves in Europe, but you have the wilderness areas to house them. I have researched and researched and can't seem to find any great push to increase the numbers and packs of wolves in Europe. As a matter of a fact, there are also areas where they are legally hunted. Why aren't you working in your own country and with your neighbors to protect and breed wolves? Why aren't you passionately writing your government officials and demanding that wolves be increased throughout Europe? Is your land more special than ours? Are your communities more fragile than ours? The gray wolf use to be a part of your ecosystem, so why must they only be in America?
Please don't write me again, Mr. Kosta. I believe we understand each other. Now go and work in your own country.

Representative Amy Edmonds


Austria
First wolf since 1973

In northern Austria, a 46 kg male wolf was killed on January 30th, 1996. A hunter from Upper Austria supposedly mistook the wolf in the night for a big fox and shot it. Local authorities confiscated the body and destroyed it immediately. Only the brain was kept for a rabies check, which was negative. Since wolves are fully protected in Austria, the animal rights organization lodged a complaint against the hunter and the Hunters Association announced that it would take measures against the responsible person. The wolf most likely had not escaped from captivity and probably migrated from the Czech Republic. The last appearance of a wild wolf in Austria was in 1973.

(Andreas Zedrosser, WWF Austria, Ottakringer Str. 114-116, 1160 Wien, Austria)"

 
Doug Samuelson, "Doug" Mail: dswyo@wyoming.com, Sun, 27. Apr 2008 11:27:37 -0600
Allen Jaggi ajaggi@wyoming.com , Sun, 27. Apr 2008 16:17:29 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Dear Mr Kosta, I am very busy so I can't spend the time needed to dispel all of the myths, you perpetuate but I will make you a deal. You worry about Austria and I will not visit you and I will worry about Wyoming and you don't visit me. I spend enough money here to cover the both of us. We are both doing great without each others tourist money. Also our constituents are in Wyoming and not Austria so your opinion matters not at all to us. You must be from the world government ilk but that belief is appalling to me and my states interests will never be compromised for you. Now go work on your countries wolf protection, they were native there you know. Sincerely, Doug Samuelson"
Re-Mail: "Thanks for your email. This is a response I sent to another person who wrote. I would ask how many wolves and buffalo do you have in your country
and how would you manage them? It's a lot easier to tell us how we should manage them in Wyoming then to do manage them in your country. We are trying to do our best.
Allen

Albert, Thanks for your thoughts. You really don't understand how wildlife management works. It is based on sound science. I am in Wyoming's legislature and serve on the committee that hears all the testimony from all sides of the issue concerning wolf and buffalo management. I assure youthat we are not just killing wolves and buffalo without good scientific
management reasons. You did not mention the carrying capacity of the land, that the habitat is overgrazed, deteriorating, because there are too many buffalo. You did not mention that ranchers, agriculture one of Wyoming main industries and way of life, is being threatened by too many wolves. You hear only one side and without really trying to understand why we are trying
to manage all species for the good of all concerned, you write to say how bad we are. I assure you that we are really trying to manage the habitat, all animals, human pressure, industry, the environment, for the best good of all. The real problem is that our habitat is shrinking, mainly because of human pressure. Before you judge Wyoming for trying to do the best we can to manage everything, you might want to find out what is really going on. Wow, I could go on, but I hope you are a little more understanding and will try to find out the real facts before making harsh, rash, unfounded, statements and judgements.
Please pass this on to your friends who are getting only one side of the issue. Thanks for listening and learning,

Representative Allen Jaggi
Member of Travel, Recreation, Wildlife, and Culture Resources Committee
Wyoming House of Representatives"

 
Charles R. Preston, Ph.D.
Chief Curator, Buffalo Bill Historical Center,
Datum: Mon, 28. Apr 2008 09:16:28 -0600
"Martinson, Betsy - Parks & Rec" Betsy.Martinson@denvergov.org Datum: Wed, 30. Apr 2008 09:11:38 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Dear Mr. Kosta, While Mr. Madden's opinions are not shared broadly by the public at large in Wyoming and the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, he does represent the thoughts of many people here. The wolf issue is an emotional one, and dogma, rather than scientific information, rules the rhetoric and actions of people on both the pro- and anti- wolf margins.

The Gray Wolf population in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem is
currently very healthy and should be carefully managed to ensure
long-term viability and to minimize conflicts with livestock producers. I am optimistic that this can be done, and I'm encouraged that the Wyoming Game and Fish Department has just named Mike Jimenez (currently with the U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service) as it's wolf management coordinator. Mike is a fine scientist/wildlife manager and a man with integrity. He understands wolves and management issues better than
anyone.
The most difficult aspect of wolf management may be financial - it is expensive to adequately monitor, study, and manage wolf populations to ensure that they will continue to thrive in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Perhaps the most important positive influence you can have to support long-term wolf population health is to encourage wolf supporters to financially support the efforts of the Wyoming Game and
Fish Department to manage the species scientifically.

Thank you for your interest in this important wildlife conservation
issue.

Charles R. Preston, Ph.D.
Chief Curator, Buffalo Bill Historical Center
and Founding Curator, Draper Museum of Natural History
720 Sheridan Ave.
Cody, WY 82414
307.578.4078
cpreston@bbhc.org

To find out more about Science and Nature programming at the BBHC, visit
www.bbhc.org and explore Draper Museum of Natural History"

Re-Mail: "Mr. Madden is correct. You have been misinformed.

Betsy Martinson | Program Administrator
Buffalo Bill Museum | City and County of Denver
303.526.0744 Phone | 303,526,0197 Fax
betsy.martinson@denvergov.org | Dial 3-1-1 for City Services"

 
State Senator, R. Ray Peterson,Senate District 19
rpeterson@wyoming.com
Tue, 08. Apr 2008 08:44:38 -0700
"Cindy Knight" cindy@tyfs.org , Thu, 01. May 2008 10:28:32 -0600
 
Re-Mail: "Albert,

Don't believe everything you hear with the media. As you know, wolves were introduced into the Yellowstone ecosystem some 15 years ago. They've done extremely well in producing more packs and spreading to other areas outside of the park boundaries. Wolves have been spotted and killed over 300 miles from the park boundaries. They have spread into not only Wyoming but Utah, Idaho, and Montana. As they begin to feed on cattle and sheep of ranches surrounding the area we have been given permission to kill the outlying wolves. Simply put, it is an attempt to contain as much as possible the spread of the wolf population around Yellowstone Park, not in the Park or even within 50 miles of Yellowstone boundaries. The only killing inside of the park that I know of is in the effort of controlling the bison herd within the park to sustain the numbers the ecosystem can handle and to try and control the spread of brucellosis among our cattle operations that surround the Park and National forests that also border the park. I live just 100 miles to the east of Yellowstone Park and represent ranchers and farmers that now have to deal with another predator that has spread from the park to areas where people live and work. I need to ask you if you have any wolves in your back yard? and if you did, would you feel safe in letting your infant play in your yard unattended? I think you get my point. In conclusion, no one is being allowed to hunt wolves inside the park boundaries. These ranchers who kill a wolf are asked to report the kill and location and the threat that the wolf was to there herds. Again all of this is being done hundreds of miles away from Yellowstone.

Thank you for your concern and I hope this helps in understanding the truth of the matter.

Sincerely, State Senator, R. Ray Peterson, Senate District 19"

"Mr. Kostistansky, I am a Wyoming native and love all the wonderful wildlife in Wyoming. I am as appalled as you are by the current Wyoming wolf plan. Many of us are trying to do something about it by organizing and by contributing to the organizations that have filed lawsuits about both the wolves and bison. I am embarrassed by the response that you received from Wyoming legislators. There are many people in Wyoming that appreciate our beautiful state and feel very lucky to live here. I personally love showing visitors their first wolf in Yellowstone. We will get the word out so that the people of Wyoming are aware of how some legislators are treating potential visitors. Agriculture is a very small part of the Wyoming economy, less than 5% but the state still hangs on to the old cowboy myth. Tourism is second only to Oil and Gas. Unfortunately the people involved in oil and gas are generally anti-wildlife because environmental laws stop them from drilling anywhere and everywhere. Thank you for caring. Cindy Knight, Jackson, Wyoming"
 
"Kit" kit@kitsenate.com , Tue, 08. Apr 2008 16:22:12 -0600
Sean Sheehan ssheehan@tritel.net - 3. May 2008
 
albert,
You have made a decision without all the facts. Please go to
http://legisweb.state.wy.us/statutes/statutes.aspx?file=titles/Title23/T23CH1AR1.htm
and read 23-1-304 & 23-1-108 and you will learn that Wyoming is not killing
wolves in Yellowstone. May I also request that you go to www.saveourelk.com
and watch the slide show to see how the wolves live in and around
Yellowstone.
Thank you for your email,
Kit Jennings

Thankyou for you efforts to support wolve in the Yellowstone ecosystem. Reading the response of my states legislators and tourism representatives is
such expected reactionary dissinformation. I am a person, and a naturalist, who lives on the eastern part of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, and have
had wolves in myh back yard. Ralph Maughan's web site is about your best
source of information on the sceience and opinions of those most familiarwith the biology of our region are likely to be found. There are quite a
number of us scattered through the ecosystem that have dedidcated much of their time and lives to the preservation and protection of the Greater Yellowstone ecosystem, it is a world treasure and one of the last intact temperate ecosystems on earth. T
hanks for your help

Slán Sean --
Sean Sheehan, wyoming Naturetours
1313 sOuth Fork Rd, COdy, WY 82414
www.wyomingnaturetours.us

 
"Tim O'Donoghue" <tim@jacksonholechamber.com, Sat, 03. May 2008 10:54:39 -0600
 
 
Dear Albert

Thank you for sharing with us your correspondence exchange with Mr. Madden. I will share this with the Jackson Hole Chamber of Commerce's Board of Directors and staff. Mr. Madden DOES NOT represent the viewpoints of the whole state, particularly of those residents and visitors to Jackson Hole. Perhaps unlike elsewhere in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho, the majority of people in Jackson Hole have strong concerns about and opposition to the wolf management plans of these states and the intended large-scale killing of wolves. Science, public opinion, and economics say that these plans could be harmful and unnecessary. With regards to economics, a University of Montana study showed that our regional economy receives approximately $35.5 million annually from tourism as a direct result of the presence of wolves. We are aware that lawsuits have been filed to stop the implementation of Wyoming's Wolf Management Plan, including lawsuits filed or joined by a number of our local organizations. So, it is unclear when or if the implementation of these wolf management plans will be stopped or changed.

In the meantime, I would encourage you to ask your family members, friends, and acquaintances that feel similarly to also email letters to us. Obviously, the less inflammatory and more to the point the letters are, the more effective they will be. Thank you for writing such a letter.

Sincerely,

Tim

Timothy O'Donoghue
Executive Director
Jackson Hole Chamber of Commerce

Respecting the Power of Place
Our Commitment to Economy, Community, and Environment

-----Original Message-----
From: Visitor Services [mailto:info@jacksonholechamber.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:52 PM
To: Tim O'Donoghue
Subject: FW: yellowstone wolf killing

 
 
Meine gesendeten Mails:
Meine gesendeten Mails:
 

Mein Mail vom 8. April 2008 - an ca. 60-70 Adressaten aus der Liste gesendet

"Dear Mr.Evans,

I am from Austria, Europe and i have heard that it is now allowed to kill wolves and bisons also in Yellowstone Nationalpark. I cannot believe it. A Nationalpark should be a place where this animals can live without being in danger to get murdered. Wolves and bisons thought that they are safe in Yellowstone. And no, from one day to another, they must fear for their lives. This is unbelievable. Wolves are animals that must be protected because there are not so much animals left. I wanted to come to Yellowstone. But now I am not willing to bring my money to hotels an other touristic places, especially in Wyoming. I will not buy my gas in Wyoming or Yellowstone Nationalpark, not book a hotel in Yellowstone National Park (Xanterra-Headquarters), will not buy my souvenirs in Nationalpark and so on. To Xanterra-Headquarters: I want you to make pressure to the government to stop the plans for killing wolves and bisons. I want to come to Yellowstone Nationalpark to see this animals alive and not to see the slaughtering of this beautiful animals. This is really mad : A Nationalpark where the animals get killed. A Nationalpark should be a safe place for the animals. And also around the park. Wolves are species that should be protected because there are not so much wolves anymore. And also on this planet. Reduce the wolf-population from 1500 to 300 animals ? WHY ?

My message to all people who are able and in the position to change something: Please make pressure to the gouvernment to stop the delisting of wolves and bisons from the art-protect-list. Otherwise, I am shure, that many many people like me are not willing to come to Yellowstone Nationalpark again or if they come, they will not support institutions and touristic places with their money, who are pro the delisting and killing of wolves and bisons.

Please do all you can, because it is crazy and unbelieveable: A Nationalpark where the animals get killed. It is not imageable that in a Nationalpark in Austria the animals get killed. Because the people come because of the animals . ALIVE ANIMALS !

Sincerely,
Albert Kostistansky
Sechshauserstrasse 28/25
1150 VIENNA
AUSTRIA
EUROPE

Mein Mail vom 13. April 2008 - an ca. 60-70 Adressaten aus der Liste gesendet

Betreff: Yellowstone wolf killing

Dear Sir, dear madam, As someone who cares about ensuring a lasting future for wolves in the U.S., I strongly urge the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to adopt a comprehensive recovery plan for wolves in the contiguous United States. I was deeply concerned about the recent elimination of federal protections for wolves in Greater Yellowstone and the Northern Rockies. By turning over management to states that plan to kill as many as 70% of the wolves in the region, your agency has dealt a serious blow to wolf recovery efforts. The agency's failure to secure a future for wolves in the Southwest is also of great concern to me.

The Service's recovery plans for America's wolves are badly out of date (the most recent plan is over 15-years old), do not reflect the most recent scientific data on wolves, and set recovery goals that are grossly inadequate. The recovery plan for the Northern Rocky Mountain wolf, for example, calls for three groups of 10 breeding pairs of wolves. The recovery plan for the Mexican gray wolf is 25 years old, and contains only an interim goal of 100 wolves in a single area. And the recovery plan for the eastern timber wolf only commits to establishing one population of 100 wolves outside of Minnesota, completely ignoring the available habitat in the Northeastern U.S. These plans are simply inadequate to ensure a lasting future for wolves in the United States, which would require multiple, connected populations, and several thousand individual wolves. That's why I strongly urge you to help to adopt the national wolf recovery plan put forth by Defenders of Wildlife and the Natural Resources Defense Council. Such a plan would help ensure a lasting future for wolves in the Northern Rockies and provide a needed boost for wolf recovery and management efforts in the Southwest, Northeast and Pacific Northwest.

In the meantime there should be 13 wolves killed. This is the official number. Were this wolves shot by official hunters with permission or shot by private persons ? Can you give me any information under which circumstances, where and why this wolves being shot ?

Thank you for your answer and considering my comments.

Albert Kostistansky
Sechshauserstrasse 28/25
1150 Vienna
Austria , Europe

 

Mein Mail vom 27. April 2008 (Teil 1) - an ca. 60-70 Adressaten aus der Liste gesendet

"Dear sir, dear madam,

i hope the opinion of mr.madden is not your opinion and not the public opinion. if mr. madden is speaking for the hole community, then this is not very good for tourism and it is mr. maddens work that maybe brings local tourism down, maybe loose much money and maybe create a bad reputation. This is not constructive. His answers make me wonder, because mr. madden is a wyoming state representative. I sent you his Mail-Answers, so that you know what i mean. I am still wondering how a state representative could answer in such style. Thank you very much for reading:

This is the 2. Mail from Mr. Madden:

FROM: "MICHAEL K. MADDEN" madden@wyoming.com
TO "Albert Kosta" Albert.Kosta@gmx.at
DATE: Sun, 13. Apr 2008 18:26:51 -0600
Subject: Wolf Killing in Yellowstone

MICHAEL K. MADDEN wrote: “Albert: I don't know where to start with regard to the misinformation you have been given. First, there are only 31 wolves outside the protected area. The rest of the 300 are in the protected area so the 70% figure you gave is totally wrong. Also, we now have way too many tourists in Wyoming if we are to maintain pristine ecological standards that we have always demanded. We need to cut down on tourists and the best way would be to have negative, and ill informed people such as you and an other Austrians that buy into the same nonsense on the internet to please stay a way so that we can maintain the sensitive ecological balance that we need to assure that Wyoming stays pretty much the same as it has for the last 200 years. As someone who cares about ensuring a lasting future for Wyoming, please listen to what I am saying and also please tell everybody with a gullible mind like yours to please stay away also.

M. Madden
Legislator, Dist. 40

PS. How many wolves do you have in Austria?? Maybe you would like to have a few of these beautiful creatures shipped over to Austria so they can kill and maim livestock in Austria too. We can ship them over. Just let us know. Of course your have no respect for private property rights so the wolves would become welcome new residents of Austria.

Have a nice day!! And please choose to vacation anywhere but Wyoming.”

Mein Mail vom 27. April 2008 (Teil 2) - an ca. 60-70 Adressaten aus der Liste gesendet

This is the 1.Mail from Mr. Madden:

FROM: "MICHAEL K. MADDEN" madden@wyoming.com
TO "Albert Kosta" Albert.Kosta@gmx.at
DATE: Sun, 8. Apr 2008 10:56:26 -0600
Subject: Wolf Killing in Yellowstone

"Mr. Kosta:

I bet that if you owned cattle and sheep and kept them on your own private property in Wyoming, you would not want to watch wolves kill them at will for their own pleasure ! In the US we have such a thing as private property rights. What a concept for Europeans!

M. Madden
Dist. 40"


I urge you again to do all you can to stop the wolf killing in yellowstoneset wolves back on the list of endangered animals and give the law of wolf management back in the hands where it was and not in the hands of the states (for example wyoming).

Sincerely,

Albert Kostistansky
Sechshauserstrasse 28/25
1150 VIENNA
AUSTRIA"

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